Something Phoenix is much more happy to talk about is his dogs.
He has two rescues and it occurs to me that a rescue dog might be a nice descriptor for his acting – the men he plays often looking tough and remotely dangerous but possessing a sadness and humility.
One of his dogs who he charmingly refers to as his ‘girl’ greets him in the morning by leaping up onto the bed – standing over him and licking his face – just delighted that he’s awake.
‘My favourite thing is just when they’re out exploring on their own’ he says.
‘I’ll creep around the house and just watch them – wondering like – ‘What is their little internal life?
What are the things they’re after?’