(ed: the following piece of anti-vegan propaganda has been penned by one jon morgan – the editor of ‘farmers weekly’ – and it is a bunch of inmitigated lies – kinda like a pile of fresh cow-pats in print – steaming in the early morning sun.
and it deserves to be unpacked/have those lies/falsehoods rebutted – so let’s do that eh..? – cow-pat by cow-pat..
morgan: ‘Within weeks every dog would starve to death.’
(ok – we’ll do this one first – about 18 months ago a dog i cared for/much-loved died – her name was lucy – and she was 18 years old – and she had lived on a vegan diet for those 18 years – and until shortly before her death she could have done a centrefold for ‘dog-monthly’ – in that she was such a picture of a happy/healthy dog (pictures of her and two other vegan dogs are on my facebook page..).
y’see mr morgan – that is your first big-lie..dogs are omnivores..eh..?..(a scientific-fact you choose to ignore..eh..?..and have you never seen a dog ripping into a rubbish-bag..?..they don’t just pick out the meaty-bits – they wolf it all down..)
and the diet i fed her far surpassed one consisting of those commercial dog-rolls that so many dogs live on full of the bits too gross to be put into sausages and fed to humans..
and i have written previously about how as a consciousness-raising exercise – i would mess with vets’ heads by asking them what they thought about a dog living on a vegan diet – i would then let them fulminate/bang on about what a terrible idea/how unhealthy/cruel to the dog that was – then i would introduce them to lucy..
the last one i did this to stood there gape-mouthed looking at her/super-shiny coat and all he had to say/ask was ‘what shampoo do you use to get her coat so shiny? – i then totally blew his mind by telling him that i have found that on the diet i fed her – i found no need to bathe her ..
and he had nothing left to say – as standing in front of him was the rebuttal/evidence of the disproving of his so recent ‘fulminations’..
and of course if disbelieving my words mr morgan (and readers) can just google for picture-galleries of vegan dogs – and see many examples of vegan dogs as healthy as my lucy was..
(and both google (and this website whoar.co.nz ) will also deliver up recipies for vegan dog food..
cats are a more complex/difficult case – i will come to them shortly..
first – the next big lie from mr morgan:
‘Then a meltdown to shade the Great Depression would hit’.
(what strikes me most about this argument/lie is how much it echoes the historical arguments against the ending of human-slavery.
at that time many economies were dependent upon slave-labour – and this was the main argument against ending those vile-practices/was the economic-stick used to beat the abolitionists..
well that didn’t happen did it..?..human slavery in the western economies ended – and life went on..didn’t it..?
and as for the here and now this editor of ‘farmers weekly’ should make himself aware of the work the movie director james cameron is doing down in the lower north island of new zealand – in the wairarapa..
‘cos cameron is a vegan – and he has been buying dairy-farms and converting them to grow real/plant-based food..
and in the process he has been experimenting with a raft of different crops – to see which work best on former dairy farms – and my understanding is that he is making the results of these experiments available to all/making them open-source..
perhaps as a service to his readers – this editor of ‘farmers weekly’ should make them aware/publicise this stellar work being done by cameron..eh.?..
instead of peddling his economic-armageddon-lies..)
morgan: ‘Over Christmas lunch an earnest young niece asked – what did I have against vegans. I replied – nothing. (ed:..ahem..!..really..?..)
A couple of people I know profess to be vegans – migrating there from simple vegetarianism.
They have to go to great lengths to ensure they have a balanced diet and I worry for their children but otherwise they’re perfectly likable.’
(ed:..i have been vegan for coming up for 20 years – and i was vegetarian for 15 years before that – i am 66 years old – and in all of those years i have not taken supplements in pill form. i have just tried to eat a healthy/balanced diet – and so far it seems to have worked out ok..
i am currently in bloody good health (touch wood) and am on no medications of any sort – for anything – a fact which surprises many medical-professionals – given as they are used to people of my age to be rattling from their daily pill-intake..my blood-pressure is fine –
– and i recently did a lung-function test – to be told i have the lungs ‘of a young man’..
and just yesterday i was at the eye-clinic of a major hospital here in new zealand – for a check-up (all pretty sweet -thanks for asking..)
and i overheard doctors telling a man of about my age how dangerously out of whack his blood-pressure – far too high..
and their initial advice to him was to ‘have a look at his (carnivorous/kiwi)-diet’.(so..y’know..!..eh.?)
morgan: ‘It’s the militant vegans I can’t stand – I told her. They’re the ones who have made veganism into a nefarious political movement – with the closure of all animal farms as their primary goal.’
(ed:..i’ll have to put my hand up for that one – like the abolitionists against human-slavery – upon whose shoulders i and others of my ‘militant’ ilk stand – i want to see/am fighting for an end to animal-slavery – for an end to the vile-cruelties done to animals – and i will argue that case ‘until the cows come home’..eh..?)
morgan: ‘They have no qualms about tactics – aiming to turn urban people against farming and the rural industries that depend on agriculture any way they can.’
ed:..these ‘tactics’ we ‘have no qualms about’ are arguing our case – arguing for the animals – that these arguments cause mr morgan such discomforts is his problem – and of course -looking back again – are the same as those experienced/felt by the owners of human-slaves – when they heard the arguments/logic of/from the abolitionists..)
morgan: I was just warming up. I went on:
You might be a normal mild-mannered town dweller who has never set foot on a farm – isn’t really sure about how the patties get into your burger or the milk into your coffee – but who cares deeply for your playful labradoodle and goes just a bit gooey inside when you see pictures of frolicking lambs.
You might also get incensed when you see pictures of calves being thrown onto trucks – chickens crammed into cages and walled-in pigs rolling in excrement.
And when Greenpeace tells you farmers are polluting our rivers and doing nothing about it you believe them.’
(ed: couldn’t have said it better myself mr morgan..!..most consumers aren’t aware of/don’t think about the horrors done in their name/the name of their tidily-packaged food/animal-byeproducts – and bringing this to their attention is another of those ‘no-qualms-tactics’ myself and the other abolitionists use – and will continue to use.’
morgan: ‘You might also think that a country without farmed animals might not be a bad idea.’
(ed:..you’ve got that right..!..and i refer you once again to that work to those ends being done by james cameron – as the way of the future –
surely mr morgan you cannot be unaware of the huge land-use/environmental costs from farming animals – instead of growing food..?..surely not..?..just go and look at the shit-filled rivers/streams..eh..?
so..what exactly is your argument there – mr morgan – aside from defending the current animal-slavery/exploitation paradigm..?)
morgan: ‘Well, if a Vegan Party came to power here’s what would happen.
They wouldn’t just set the animals free. They’re not completely stupid, they know the cows and sheep would not survive without human help.
But the killing of them would stop.
And the milking. There’s our two most important export industries scuppered at the cost of billions of dollars and thousands, if not millions, of jobs’.
(ed:..’millions of jobs’..?..really mr morgan..?..i think you are getting a tad hysterical here..eh..?..and the facts of the matter are that most animal-farming is now heavily-mechanised – with a low number of (low-paid) human workers and as many/more jobs would be created by a plant-based economy)
morgan: ‘Get ready for an economic meltdown that would leave the Great Depression in the shade’.
(ed:..i once again point you to the work being done by james cameron – as a blueprint of sorts for handling this transition..
and really mr morgan – you clearly have not been paying attention to what is happening in the rest of the world with the development of plant-based ‘meat’/’milk’ etc..
in actual fact this is the biggest danger to the economic-paradigm based on animal-slavery/exploitation that you are attempting to defend..
‘meat’ (indistinguishable from the real thing in taste/texture etc.) able to be ‘grown’ in warehouses/factories – at a much lower cost (both financial and environmental) than by farmers here in new zealand – this is the real danger to your industry – not ‘qualm-free’ vegan abolitionists like me ad others..eh..?..heads up..!..eh..?..)
morgan: ‘The biggest beneficiaries of this would be our trading rivals, mainly the Australians, who would descend with glee on our markets in Europe, America, the Middle East and Asia’.
(ed: these upcoming changes will also be happening in those markets – and once again just echo those arguments made for the continuation of the human-slavery that once underpinned those economies..)
morgan: ‘On the home front, the biggest immediate impact on everyone wouldn’t be the loss of meat and dairy in the diet, shattering though that would be. It would be the discovery that their pet dogs and cats were going to starve to death.
These are unrestructured carnivores that can’t survive without meat.’
(ed: i have already covered/unpacked this big-lie from mr morgan..)
morgan: ‘Back to the farm animals.
I’m assuming they would be allowed to die of old age, although there could be a short-term gain from exporting the ones of breeding age’.
ed:..you really are going out on a limb here – mr morgan – with your fanciful ‘what if?’ musings – can i suggest a cup of tea and a wee lie-down for you..?..)
morgan: ‘The cost of keeping them on the farms would come from the money made from turning the fields over to growing crops – grains for baking, nuts and pulses for protein and vegetables, lots of vegetables.
The hills would revert to bush or be planted in forestry – timber trees which in 25-30 years would become our main export.’
(ed:..that all sounds pretty good – and once again i refer you to james cameron and his work currently being done on how to to manage this transition to growing/producing real food..)
morgan: ‘I can’t rule out a wool industry, but as every sheep farmer knows the current prices are hardly enough to pay for shearing, so that may not be a goer.
(ed: indeed..!..that may not be a ‘goer’ – as there are any number of plant-based options to choose from – no need for animals to be exploited to clothe humanity..)
morgan: The benefits of a country-wide switch to veganism would be – hmmm, I’m having trouble thinking of any.
Would we be healthier? No.’
(ed:..yes we would mt morgan – we would ‘be healthier’ – i have cited the case of me – as just one example of the benefits to be had from a plant-based diet – and i would note that i know people older than me – who have been vegans for longer than i have – and what they all share – is rude good health…so..’y’know..!
and of course the benefits from clean rivers etc cannot be over-stated..can they mr morgan..?..)
morgan: ‘As healthy? Only if we rigidly kept to a diet that guaranteed enough iron. Expect casualties along the way as we struggled with that.’
(ed: that hysterical claim of ‘expect casualties along the way’ has me chuckling away – and urging you to have yet anther cup of tea – and another wee lie-down..eh..?)
morgan: ‘Offsetting physical health would be mental ill health from worry over a sudden plummet in living standards’.
(ed: you are really digging deep/grasping for straws here – aren’t ou mr morgan – and such silliness doesn’t even deserve a reply/rejoinder – and is your ‘offsetting physical health’ an admission of a vegan diet being much healthier than yours/one of a carnivore..?..that is certainly what it reads like..)
morgan: ‘My niece looked up from her phone.
But the animals would be better off, right, she asked.’
(ed:..your neice has got you there..eh..?..in a very tidy summary of the raft of arguments i have just presented..)
morgan: ‘Not really, I replied. Only the herbivores like cattle and sheep, of which a few would be kept as pets or for their wool.
The rest would be allowed to die. It would be a strange world without cats and dogs. But maybe we’d find new pets – there’d certainly be more rats around.’
ed:..so back to your first big-lie..eh mr morgan..?..the ‘dying-dogs’ one..?..and/tho’ i will admit that cats are more difficult to raise/have on a vegan diet – it can be done but it is not the breeze that it is for dogs..
but here i refer back to those plant-based ‘meats’ just over the horizon – if humans cannot tell the difference from animal-flesh – i am sure cats will also be easily ‘fooled’..eh..?)
morgan: ‘She nodded and returned to Facebook.’
(ed: and one would hope her unspoken thoughts would have been: ‘silly old uncle jon – and his animal-exploitation supporting bullshit’ – and maybe while she is on facebook – she could have a look at that 18 year old vegan dog i previously referred to..eh..?..)